Curse

SurareVaera · Mar 30, 2009, 04:13 AM // 04:13

Onyx and Diamonds are too common right now due to 600/smite dungeon runs, voltaic spear farms, and Fissure and Underworld speed clears. For diamonds in particular, the value listed at the rare material trader is often below the base merchant price of 250 gold. It is also incredibly infuriating to spend an hour in a hard mode dungeon and get double gemstones from the end chest nearly 25-33% of the time. The gemstones are so ubiquitous that they evoke the same sense of futility and wasted effort as blowing 4k for a 50% shot at firewater and brulee.

Please either reduce the drop rate for onyx or diamonds, or at least guarantee that a maximum of one gemstone can drop from a dungeon end chest.

AngelWJedi · Mar 30, 2009, 05:16 AM // 05:16

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Originally Posted by SurareVaera

Onyx and Diamonds are too common right now due to 600/smite dungeon runs, voltaic spear farms, and Fissure and Underworld speed clears. For diamonds in particular, the value listed at the rare material trader is often below the base merchant price of 250 gold. It is also incredibly infuriating to spend an hour in a hard mode dungeon and get double gemstones from the end chest nearly 25-33% of the time. The gemstones are so ubiquitous that they evoke the same sense of futility and wasted effort as blowing 4k for a 50% shot at firewater and brulee.

Please either reduce the drop rate for onyx or diamonds, or at least guarantee that a maximum of one gemstone can drop from a dungeon end chest.

i agree!
/signed

i hate when you pay like 10k or more for a dungeon run to get a high end item and get diamons/oynx.

i rather have a crappy gold then those materials!

dasmitchies · Mar 30, 2009, 05:33 AM // 05:33

/signed
with no use other than destroyer weapon crafting they have run their course allready.

Konig Des Todes · Mar 30, 2009, 05:33 AM // 05:33

/signed

I usually get a gold, and when I get gemstones I give it to a friend who is working on maxing his HoM. But it is still annoying. Reduce the % chance of getting Onyx and Diamonds please.

Although keeping it would be a good punishment for those who pay other people to play the game for them. Don't get why people do that...

AngelWJedi · Mar 30, 2009, 05:40 AM // 05:40

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

/signed

I usually get a gold, and when I get gemstones I give it to a friend who is working on maxing his HoM. But it is still annoying. Reduce the % chance of getting Onyx and Diamonds please.

Although keeping it would be a good punishment for those who pay other people to play the game for them. Don't get why people do that...

because not all of us can find good groups or friends to do dungeons with. plus nothing wrong with paying a person to run us. its our time and money not yours.

jonnieboi05 · Mar 30, 2009, 06:21 AM // 06:21

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

Although keeping it would be a good punishment for those who pay other people to play the game for them. Don't get why people do that...

i know why!! it's b/c they like to pay me 10k to run SoO.

Rak Orgon of Beowulf · Mar 30, 2009, 07:09 AM // 07:09

/notsigned

its been observed as about 25% of the time, and thats fine.

how about you limit your VS Farms and 600/Smite dungeon runs and actually play the game. theres a solution...

EDIT: best solution...
nerf [shadow form] back to the old style

admittedley, i use it too...but if you're complaining about the prices, that is the reason.

jonnieboi05 · Mar 30, 2009, 07:25 AM // 07:25

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Originally Posted by Rak Orgon of Beowulf

/notsigned

its been observed as about 25% of the time, and thats fine.

how about you limit your VS Farms and 600/Smite dungeon runs and actually play the game. theres a solution...

and then there's always this.

Mayda · Mar 30, 2009, 07:47 AM // 07:47

stop doing dungeons, anet then might improve the drop rates to attract ppl again
if ppl are still interested in doing this and paying for runs, theres no need to change

RupDur78 · Mar 30, 2009, 08:26 AM // 08:26

/dont care they are only used to make ugly weapons. they might as well be cheep /not signed

Arduin · Mar 30, 2009, 08:26 AM // 08:26

Decrease chance of Diamonds for Dungeon Chests.
Decrease chance of Onyx's for Dungeon Chests.
Decrease chance of Creme Brulee for Zaishen Chest.
Decrease chance of Firewater for Zaishen Chest.
Decrease chance of Normal Tomes for Locked Chest.
Decrease chance of Common Miniature for Birthday Present.
Decrease chance of People failing at Guild Wars

I'd sign for these.

ZeAliX · Mar 30, 2009, 09:11 AM // 09:11

ehm.. this is caused by all the players farming the dungeons.. they did this to themselves.. so I think they deserve getting all the gemstones they can get. If people had been doing the dungeon how they were supposed to be done this wouldn't be a problem. /not signed

cloud4905 · Mar 30, 2009, 10:21 AM // 10:21

/signed

I hate spending an hour+ in a hm dungeon, especially a long or hard one, and getting double onyx/diamonds. Limit to one per chest max please.

Unreal Havoc · Mar 30, 2009, 11:04 AM // 11:04

Just nerf the common dungeon running builds. I can't see the fun in sitting around for the best part of an hour while someone else runs through a dungeon for you anyway.

DarkGanni · Mar 30, 2009, 11:19 AM // 11:19

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Originally Posted by Arduinna

Decrease chance of Diamonds for Dungeon Chests.
Decrease chance of Onyx's for Dungeon Chests.
Decrease chance of Creme Brulee for Zaishen Chest.
Decrease chance of Firewater for Zaishen Chest.
Decrease chance of Normal Tomes for Locked Chest.
Decrease chance of Common Miniature for Birthday Present.
Decrease chance of People failing at Guild Wars

I'd sign for these.

Agreed on all those xD

At OP's suggestion: I don't mind diamonds and onyx gems from dungeons as they are easy to finish with all the runners around, however from FoW/UW I wish they'd change the stupid drop rate. I'd rather get 2 crappy req13 golds than 2/3 Scrolls in one run or onyx or diamond.

/signed

Chieftain Heavyhand · Mar 30, 2009, 11:25 AM // 11:25

Guru needs to open up a cheese factory.

/NOT SIGNED

Why don't you whiners just say what you really mean, I can't sell this stuff at what I want to so Anet should knee cap it so it will be worth more so I can make more doing runs and farming this junk.

Say what you mean you paid 10k to get ran and only got a crappy gold weapon and some worthless rare materials. Hey you rolled the dice to get what ever you really paid 10k for the run to get and all you ended up with was junk.

Maybe you should save your plat and learn to run it your self or go ahead and buy super shiny weapon skin X you wasted your money for.

jaximus · Mar 30, 2009, 11:47 AM // 11:47

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Originally Posted by ZeAliX

ehm.. this is caused by all the players farming the dungeons.. they did this to themselves.. so I think they deserve getting all the gemstones they can get. If people had been doing the dungeon how they were supposed to be done this wouldn't be a problem. /not signed

this...

speed clears and dungeon runs shouldnt exist. the only reason it does is because people would cry and complain if they took it out once it became so common. i would actually like them to raise the drop rates on these items to discourage the speedclears and such. noone should complain when they are given free stuff. dungeons like cof, where the price is 2k and the quest reward is 1.5k always end up profitable. maybe only by a tiny amount, but really you can pre pay, afk, and do whatever and you still come out ahead. no reason to pump more of the other stuff into the economy. so if chests should only drop the rare stuff, then its not rare, then its not worth anything and the next qq thread will be about how they should lower the drop rate of the rare stuff so things are valuable.

Eragon Zarroc · Mar 30, 2009, 01:31 PM // 13:31

agreed due to the fact the dungeons are too easily farmed.

Yawgmoth · Mar 30, 2009, 01:52 PM // 13:52

Overfarm causes problems not droprates.
Changing droprates can make the gems worth more but it will make other stuff that will drop instead of them in big numbers worth less. I also enjoyed getting Onyx when it was 5k+ and it felt allright, but it didn't take long for extreme overfarm to tank the prices completely.

Solutions: Fix overfarm (UWSC, VSF etc.), add more uses for the gems so they're wanted again.
Droprates are fine.

Kattar · Mar 30, 2009, 02:15 PM // 14:15

"The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in our stars but in ourselves."

Over farming is the issue.